Shaine's 85 coupe blue orange

tfs2121 · Post by **tfs2121** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:47 am

hey mike i didnt see his vin on the list you should add it

looks like its sandys post so sandy should add it oops

S · Post by S » Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:27 am

ok so can someone ball park me! id like to say

ascMcLaren limited editon number ** of 150 in 85

Post by **negusm** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:18 am

You appear to be #25 in the list of 59 (discounting GP4s) that we have.

So we have roughly 40% of the vins. Statistically speaking, if we have an even spread of the numbers.....

25/60 * 150 = ~63

But because they didn't do the cars at asc in order....who knows how far off yours might be. Potentially your car could be anywhere from #40-#80. And seriously....it could be off by more than that. I would urge you to NOT tell people a specific number. I would tell them "midway" through production or whatever. People start throwing exact numbers around with no real sources and fights break out.

-Mike

S · Post by S » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:31 am

so roughly mid. i have an 85 mph speedo, i thought the early ones got 85 and the lates got the 140 so id say ealy mids!? o well we'll never know i gues!

Post by **negusm** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:46 am

Shaine wrote:so roughly mid. i have an 85 mph speedo, i thought the early ones got 85 and the lates got the 140 so id say ealy mids!? o well we'll never know i gues!

Nope, we will never know. No one knows when the 140MPH speedos happened. Maybe towards the very end....and how many were installed by the dealer or by the 1st or second owner?

-Mike

87ASC · Post by **87ASC** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:14 am

I think the dealer probably installed them

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Sandy · Post by **Sandy** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:14 pm

No No No No

Dealers are ONLY allowed to replace spedos when & if the one in the car is broken, and have to fill out several forms and it's against the law....
It's not done. The speedos were installed by McLaren, in Livonia.

They (the 140) were an OPTION (from ascMcLaren) in the EuroCoupes, standard in others. Way back in 1986/1987 I had never seen an '85 with a 140; on the 85. A private party could order a 140 and if they knew how, install it themselves, but, by law, unless the odometer broke, a dealer cannot R&R (remove & replace) this item.

Post by **negusm** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:52 pm

Sandy wrote:No No No No

Dealers are ONLY allowed to replace spedos when & if the one in the car is broken, and have to fill out several forms and it's against the law....
It's not done. The speedos were installed by McLaren, in Livonia.

They (the 140) were an OPTION (from ascMcLaren) in the EuroCoupes, standard in others. Way back in 1986/1987 I had never seen an '85 with a 140; on the 85. A private party could order a 140 and if they knew how, install it themselves, but, by law, unless the odometer broke, a dealer cannot R&R (remove & replace) this item.

Gotcha. Very good point.

87ASC · Post by **87ASC** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:58 pm

negusm wrote:
Sandy wrote:No No No No

Dealers are ONLY allowed to replace spedos when & if the one in the car is broken, and have to fill out several forms and it's against the law....
It's not done. The speedos were installed by McLaren, in Livonia.

They (the 140) were an OPTION (from ascMcLaren) in the EuroCoupes, standard in others. Way back in 1986/1987 I had never seen an '85 with a 140; on the 85. A private party could order a 140 and if they knew how, install it themselves, but, by law, unless the odometer broke, a dealer cannot R&R (remove & replace) this item.
Gotcha. Very good point.

Very good point

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tfs2121 · Post by **tfs2121** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:02 pm

echo echo

S · Post by S » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:35 pm

gotcha well that sucks i guess. are we in contact with asc? they didnt document them at all?

Post by **negusm** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:39 pm

Shaine wrote:gotcha well that sucks i guess. are we in contact with asc? they didnt document them at all?

Sandy knows a few people. There is almost no one still left at the asc plant who worked on these cars. From these people, I imagine Sandy has gleaned what information he could so we at least know how many were built.

And as for the documentation, it got shredded.

Someday, we may know since Mustang Marti is in talks to get ALL build documentation from Ford for ALL FOMOCO 79-93 cars. Hopefully, something in that database will be flagged for what cars got built as asc cars. At the very least I think they should have the special DSO codes listed and they could be determined from that.

Well, it's hopeful thinking really. It may never happen.

-Mike

tfs2121 · Post by **tfs2121** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:06 pm

if ford has a copy of every cars build sheet and they give them up then it could happen if somone reads them all

Sandy · Post by **Sandy** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:25 pm

I can document all 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 & 1990 ascMcLarens.
1984-1985, as I was told, were all shreaded by a young female worker who got angry over something, shredded & quit ! All we have are the grand totals of the build.

1984 Coupes = 25 - Navy Blue
1984 Verts = 50 - Red

1985 Coupes = 150 - Navy Blue or White
1985 Verts = 257 - Red or White or Black
1985 GPIV = 30. - White or Silver.

Only color breakout on GPIV as 3 Silver Metallic & 27 Oxford White.

S · Post by S » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:15 am

i thought it was 150 in 85?